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maoisn wrote: cbray wrote:
What history book are you reading from? Historically, the private sector has only looked out for themselves. Everything is about cost cutting, meeting revenue expectations and potential growths. Have we forgotten about all the recent events?
history my friend history, things change because of capitalism. products get beter becasue of the private sector, competion etc, the gov is just there to see no one is outhere killing people. And what really irks me is that you freedom fighter who are fighting government mandates are the same people begging Uncle Sam to do something about gas prices. So mandates are OK just as long as it serves your interest. the health/medical and insurance companies are a good example of this |
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cbray wrote: maoisn wrote: history my friend history, things change because of capitalism.
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What you fail to see is this. Without those mandates, there would be ZERO better products. Our food supply use to be shit and I mean literally shit until government mandates and regulations were put in place. Thank you FDA. The private sector has not, can not and will not regulate themselves.No mao thats their right to go where they want, i chose to go get the better product, hence the saying in buisness, "serve the mass' live with the class' - serve the class' live with the mass'" wise words wright them down. products get beter becasue of the private sector, competion etc, the gov is just there to see no one is outhere killing people. The government is also there to make sure no one company can monopolize the market, see the thing that we get screwed with is when we rely on outside countries, like oil where we get screwed. |
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exactly too much government regulation. American oil companies cant drill in this country becasue the gov wont let them. whn china is drilling 75 miles off the coast of florida and mexico is slant drilling our oil in texas. Good point ba This is what happens when people can only see in the short term. People who think a smoking ban will end the world are the same people who think a bit more drilling will kill all life on Earth. |
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It is like anything, there needs to be balance. Too much of anything is a bad thing. What we need is socialapitalism. A way to safeguard our fellow man aren't getting severely fucked, while allowing people to advance and strive for a better life
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maoisn wrote: cbray wrote:
What history book are you reading from? Historically, the private sector has only looked out for themselves. Everything is about cost cutting, meeting revenue expectations and potential growths. Have we forgotten about all the recent events?
history my friend history, things change because of capitalism. products get beter becasue of the private sector, competion etc, the gov is just there to see no one is outhere killing people. And what really irks me is that you freedom fighter who are fighting government mandates are the same people begging Uncle Sam to do something about gas prices. So mandates are OK just as long as it serves your interest. dont confuse a monopoly with buisness comanies open and close becasue someone new comes along and makes abetter prodct only the ones that adapt can stay in the game. BMW made airplane motors for germany during the ww1 and 2 after that airplane manufactuirng was banned for germany and they would have gone under, instead they started turning out bad ass bikes, BAD ASS bikeS. People need to realize that concept here in the u.s. Instead of thinking the economy is f/kd up maybe times are changing and there is a new kid on the block, that doiesnt mean we all have to start running around in a frantic regulating and banning and overseeing everything. |
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ChiefBD wrote:It is like anything, there needs to be balance. Too much of anything is a bad thing. What we need is socialapitalism. A way to safeguard our fellow man aren't getting severely fucked, while allowing people to advance and strive for a better life ![]() we need JEDI KNIGHTS |
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ChiefBD wrote:It is like anything, there needs to be balance. Too much of anything is a bad thing. What we need is socialapitalism. A way to safeguard our fellow man aren't getting severely fucked, while allowing people to advance and strive for a better life ![]() See the balance was when we relied on other countries like China to make cheap goods for us or Arab countries to get cheap oil from these countries are getting wise and want to be more like America, and what happens? This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 05/29/2008 05:13:52 PM |
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cbray wrote:
dont confuse a monopoly with buisness comanies open and close becasue someone new comes along and makes abetter prodct only the ones that adapt can stay in the game. BMW made airplane motors for germany during the ww1 and 2 after that airplane manufactuirng was banned for germany and they would have gone under, instead they started turning out bad ass bikes, BAD ASS bikeS. People need to realize that concept here in the u.s. Instead of thinking the economy is f/kd up maybe times are changing and there is a new kid on the block, that doiesnt mean we all have to start running around in a frantic regulating and banning and overseeing everything. As long as there is greed, there will be a need for mandates. |
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CrazyTrain wrote: ChiefBD wrote:It is like anything, there needs to be balance. Too much of anything is a bad thing. What we need is socialapitalism. A way to safeguard our fellow man aren't getting severely fucked, while allowing people to advance and strive for a better life See the balance was when we relied on other countries like China to make cheap goods for us or Arab countries to get cheap oil from these countries are getting wise and want to be more like America, and what happens?![]()
What happens is ChiefBD no longer does multiple track days a month, and doesn't get that new BMW M3 .
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like i said we need JEDI KNIGHTS
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maoisn wrote: cbray wrote:
As long as there is greed, there will be a need for mandates.dont confuse a monopoly with buisness comanies open and close becasue someone new comes along and makes abetter prodct only the ones that adapt can stay in the game. BMW made airplane motors for germany during the ww1 and 2 after that airplane manufactuirng was banned for germany and they would have gone under, instead they started turning out bad ass bikes, BAD ASS bikeS. People need to realize that concept here in the u.s. Instead of thinking the economy is f/kd up maybe times are changing and there is a new kid on the block, that doiesnt mean we all have to start running around in a frantic regulating and banning and overseeing everything.
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No we need more Spartans!
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ChiefBD wrote: CrazyTrain wrote: ChiefBD wrote:It is like anything, there needs to be balance. Too much of anything is a bad thing. What we need is socialapitalism. A way to safeguard our fellow man aren't getting severely fucked, while allowing people to advance and strive for a better life See the balance was when we relied on other countries like China to make cheap goods for us or Arab countries to get cheap oil from these countries are getting wise and want to be more like America, and what happens?![]()
What happens is ChiefBD no longer does multiple track days a month, and doesn't get that new BMW M3 . yeah we live to much in a world of Credit and Debt! people need to be a little more humble and learn to live within there means. There is whole lot of other stuff but I see people living way over there heads.
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No we need a group hug and have a drink!
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cbray wrote:like i said we need JEDI KNIGHTS A task force of bad ass mofos that will destroy anyone or group that attempts to enslave and mistreat their fellow man , I'm down with that, the IRS and gov aren't doing a good job of doing that. It would be like Luke getting a palace from the sith lords to look the other way
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CrazyTrain wrote: ChiefBD wrote: CrazyTrain wrote: ChiefBD wrote:It is like anything, there needs to be balance. Too much of anything is a bad thing. What we need is socialapitalism. A way to safeguard our fellow man aren't getting severely fucked, while allowing people to advance and strive for a better life See the balance was when we relied on other countries like China to make cheap goods for us or Arab countries to get cheap oil from these countries are getting wise and want to be more like America, and what happens?![]()
What happens is ChiefBD no longer does multiple track days a month, and doesn't get that new BMW M3 . yeah we live to much in a world of Credit and Debt! people need to be a little more humble and learn to live within there means. There is whole lot of other stuff but I see people living way over there heads.
I agree, basically its the notion of Owning up and taking responsability, |
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CrazyTrain wrote:No we need a group hug and have a drink! or a circle jerk
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cbray wrote:
I agree, basically its the notion of Owning up and taking responsibility, I like this word. I hope more people use it. |
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cbray wrote:
I agree, basically its the notion of Owning up and taking responsability,
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